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Category:User tlh-N

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category says "These users are able to contribute with a native-born (including colloquialisms and idioms) level of Klingon." How can someone be a native-born speaker of a made-up language of a non-existent place? It can only be used ironically and if it is a joke, the category should indicate that. I think that Template:User tlh-N should also be tagged for deletion but since the content is written in Klingon, and Google Translate can't handle that, I'm not sure what it says. Liz Read! Talk! 21:49, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Cooperative video games by platform

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Cooperative video games. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining trivial intersection between genre and platform. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not all games added to every category - because of course I do not know all games. But it hundreds of games, especially for Windows. Vitaly Zdanevich (talk) 04:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
> Non-defining trivial intersection between genre and platform
I disagree - "genre" and platform are not trivial. Vitaly Zdanevich (talk) 04:48, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:16, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I am seeing consensus that these categories should not be kept; but no consensus on whether to merge or delete. Therefore, discussion on merging vs. deleting would be helpful :)
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Category:16th-century American people

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename consistent with Category:People of the Thirteen Colonies. People in completely different areas (e.g. in the southwest) are completely unrelated. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:33, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as formulated: the proposed title is anachronistic; none of the thirteen colonies was founded in the sixteenth century. The only English colonists in North America belonged to the Roanoke colony, which failed and disappeared within a few years. Although that colony was located in present-day North Carolina, the patent for Carolina was issued in 1629, and no permanent English settlement was made until 1653. Virginia was chartered in 1606, with the first settlers arriving at Jamestown in 1607. The first of the thirteen colonies was thus founded in the seventeenth century. By that time, twenty years had elapsed since the last contact with the Roanoke colony, and of the few colonists who returned to England in 1587, none ever settled in the thirteen colonies.
I note that all of the non-native persons in this category should be in one or both of the two subcategories, "16th-century American women" and "People of the Roanoke Colony". Joachim Gans was part of the Roanoke colony, though he returned to England before it failed; Bachiler, Gosnold, and Wingfield were alive in the sixteenth century, but did not come to America until the seventeenth century, and should be removed. Presumably the Indians mentioned in connection with Roanoke and perhaps elsewhere in the area that became the thirteen colonies could be added to this category as "American people", since some of them have articles. However, they were not residents of the thirteen colonies. P Aculeius (talk) 01:04, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:YouTube podcasters

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Podcasts are published across a variety of platforms. I am not aware of any podcasts which are published exclusively on YouTube. As such, this is a non-defining characteristic for the podcaster. User:Namiba 17:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I guess so. It was more to categorize YouTubers who specifically hosted podcasts on the platform. Though yeah, the podcast industry(?) has certainly ballooned since 2020, when I made the category. It's less CGP Grey, Cr1TiKaL, and Philip DeFranco types (i.e. YouTubers who host podcasts on the platform) and more JJ Redick and LeBron James types (people who have podcasts on YouTube, because... duh, why wouldn't you have your podcast be hosted on as many services/platforms as possible nowadays?)
I guess when I first made the cat it was almost like a genre categorization in my head. Unsure if this compels anyone to want to keep the cat but I'm fine with whatever. Soulbust (talk) 00:48, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: I checked a handful of these and most didn't discuss YouTube as a platform for the podcasts in question at all, let alone as the primary or exclusive platform. I'm unconvinced that categorising people who make podcasts by the platforms that those podcasts are available on is useful in general; this category specifically certainly doesn't seem to be. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 13:28, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Prejudice and discrimination in fiction

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Nominator's rationale: Per WP:XY, this is an unhelpful multi-target category redirect. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:08, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: INVOLVED relisting to tag Category:Prejudice in fiction.
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Category:Court Treasurers

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Political office-holders in Poland with no prejudice against recreation if the category can be appropriately populated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:03, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category name is vague, and currently has one template it is (I moved the other template to a more specific category). I think we should merge it. If not merged, it should be renamed and populated. Mason (talk) 02:32, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can it be populated?
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@Marcelus is welcome to try. Mason (talk) 13:37, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will do that in a free time, but I think nominator should make an effort. Marcelus (talk) 14:17, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I already told you I tried. There's no need to repeatedly make passive aggressive comments. Mason (talk) 01:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question: Can it be populated? I see consensus that something needs to change about this category, so if it is not populated and there is no further participation I would close this as merge.
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Category:1990s religious comedy films

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:02, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Newly created category for 1 article. Category:Religious comedy films not subcategorized by time. Gjs238 (talk) 14:07, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If we create more, is that acceptable? But it's difficult via mobile and I don't have desktop access at the moment. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Three pages and one subcategory as of relisting.
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Still need more participation to achieve consensus (n.b. nom !voted twice).
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Category:Monarchs of South Africa

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:03, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, few of these monarchs were monarch of the entirety of South Africa so "in" is a better preposition. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:01, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Redirects from transliterations

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:03, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The template is {{R from alternative transliteration}}, which implies that the target is also transliterated. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:19, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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People of Arab descent

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: People of Arab descent are those whose ancestors belong to the Arab ethnic group. This term should not be used as a catch-all category for people from Arab-majority countries, as other ethnic groups also reside in these regions (e.g., Berbers in the Maghreb, Copts in Egypt, Maronites in Lebanon, Druze and Kurds in Syria and Iraq, etc.). Additionally, I propose merging country categories, as dividing them by continent does not make sense given the small number of categories. --Sakakami (talk) 14:14, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Greek Muses

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "Greek Muses" could easily be misunderstood to be "muse (person) from Greece". This is especially confusing since the category for muse (person) is simply Category:Muses.★Trekker (talk) 09:38, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rename, making it less ambiguous. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: while there are more Muses in Greek mythology than the canonical nine, there are no non-Greek Muses in mythology; and all non-mythological uses of "Muse/muse" are understood to be metaphorical references to the Greek Muses. So the current name is unlikely to be misunderstood as suggested by the nominator, and the proposed name implies the existence of non-Greek Muses, who do not exist. I don't think there's a problem with the current name, but an alternative that would resolve the latter concern would be Category:Muses (Greek mythology). That would be less ambiguous than the proposed name, IMO. P Aculeius (talk) 07:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree, not everyone is as familiar with classical mythology like you and I are, I could easily see someone mistakenly thinking that the category is for artistic muses of Greek nationality.★Trekker (talk) 16:44, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't Category:Muses (Greek mythology) avoid that ambiguity? P Aculeius (talk) 01:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but I'd argue that the muses of Greek mythology were probably adopted into Roman myth and spread along the Roman Empire along with all else Hellenic religion, so (mythology) would suffice and possibly be more accurate in the long run.★Trekker (talk) 19:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Women's baseball people

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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 12#Category:Women's baseball people

Articles with outdated impact factors

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These tracking sub-categories of Category:Articles with outdated impact factors are meant to be temporarily (according to the documentation) and pages in these categories should be updated to the most recent impact factor. Since these are empty, that has been done. Gonnym (talk) 08:33, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Scottish humanitarians

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_November_10#Humanitarians Mason (talk) 04:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Political and economic think tanks based in the European Union

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't this we need to make the distinction between EU and Eureope for Political and economic think tanks. There's no equivalent parent category for non-political think tanks Mason (talk) 03:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kyrgyz Political Organisations

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicate category created by a new wikipedia editor. Usually, I'd just make a redirect, but this category is different enough that I'd rather merge. Mason (talk) 03:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
DELETE. Apologies for that, and agree with the proposal here. Isoceles-sai (talk) 17:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:17th-century mayors of places in Pennsylvania

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. The current lone member might be the only Pennsylvania mayor in the 17th-century. Humphrey Morrey Mason (talk) 03:08, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:History of blood donation in the United Kingdom

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge. I don't think we need to diffuse History of blood donation by country, given that the History of blood donation only contains this category Mason (talk) 00:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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