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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:17, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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This is another article in the same pattern as Hokkien and Hoklo Americans and Hakka Americans. There needs to be significant coverage to show that this is an established identity. I am unable to find any discussion about this. -- Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:42, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:43, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete. Is this a joke? The article simply states the concept does not exist. I concur, no hits in GScholar, GBooks has only one - from 1872. Too fringe. Through this does raise the question of whether Category:American people of Manchu descent can exist. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:22, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • There are over 10 million Manchu in the world, as the creator of the article, I just simply can't believe that there is no record of Manchus in America at all. It doesn't help that when you look up "Manchu" "American" on google, it brings up information about Fu Manchu stereotypes.--Prisencolin (talk) 19:04, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I might end up supporting deletion on this one to be honest. But still, how in the world is this in the "same pattern" as Hokkien and Hakka Americans, Manchu are a completely distinct group from the Han.--Prisencolin (talk) 19:06, 19 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. If the only content in an article is content saying that no information is known about the subject of the article, then that article should not exist! If actual information in sources can be found, the article can always be recreated. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:02, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The problem is that we have absolutely no reliable sources saying anything about them. It is unclear if the listed people considered themselves Manchu. Just because one had a Manchu parent does not mean they are Manchu. Anyway, from My History of China from 1644 to present class at Wayne State University back in early 2008 I learned that at present the Manchu are not really distinguishable from the Han in China. We might as well have an article on Hugenot-American Russians, it would make as much sense. That would be nationals of Russia who have ancestry that was Hugenot in the US.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:44, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete: Perhaps Lemongirl942 should have marked this for CSD. The prose of the article itself fails GNG for this article, we dont even need to put any arguments. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 01:03, 27 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.