Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anatoli Rozhkov

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. We seem to have reached the final whistle here. The standard here is GNG. The keep votes talk about a single source or sources must exist, which is not an objective test of passing GNG. Sourcing that meets GNG has not been provided here so the arguments that this fails GNG prevail. Spartaz ^Humbug! 07:42, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anatoli Rozhkov

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Fails WP:GNG. This editor, despite being counseled that footballers need to pass GNG, continues to create these stubs about footballers who, even if WP:NFOOTY hadn't been deprecated, wouldn't meet even that low bar. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:49, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, and Russia. Shellwood (talk) 10:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:43, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment If you're not able to run the Russian sources then this nomination is a bias one in my opinion. A lot of top flight Russian games, extensive career, I find it hard to believe that he can not pass GNG. Govvy (talk) 10:54, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking into whether the article can pass the GNG, and it looks likely (but my Russian-language coverage searches are hampered due to the current state of Russian websites). That said, Rozhkov never played in the Russian top flight - he played 84 second division matches (70 with Khimki and 14 with Torpedo-Viktoria NN) but everything else was in the third division or below. Jogurney (talk) 16:55, 5 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:26, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes GNG, as per quick look at Russian Wikipedia page.--Ortizesp (talk) 23:30, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Unlike many of the other articles this editor created that are currently nominated for deletion, this involves a former footballer who appears to have played for a couple of seasons in the Russian second division (with Khimki and Torpedo-Viktoria NN) although he appears to have been a reserve at that point. As such, it likely would have satisfied NFOOTBALL prior to its deprecation. A quick search shows recent coverage of his coaching career, but I'll need some time to look for coverage on his playing career. Jogurney (talk) 18:14, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:14, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete As per OneI, the goalposts have moved on this type of article. See what I did there? Fails WP:GNG. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 17:33, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - I've tried to find SIGCOV, and I think the two articles I added to Rozhkov's article get us just about there. The sovsport.ru article is pretty short, but I did particularly enjoy reading about how he accidentally threw the ball into his own net to knock his club out of the cup ;). @GiantSnowman, you may want to review those articles. Jogurney (talk) 17:10, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - btw, looking at the Russian article, it has a single reference, which is just a short blurb (the other is a link to a wikipage), and then an interview in the final section. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 23:48, 13 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No admin has decided to close this discussion all day so I'm giving it another week for consideration.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:38, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This source mentioned above seems very good to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nfitz (talk • contribs)
Delete. Fails WP:SPORTSBASIC and WP:SIGCOV. I would not consider the Russian language source reliable as it cites a wiki page as source, and has an interview section which lacks independence. As such we lack multiple pieces of reliable independent RS to pass our notability guidelines.4meter4 (talk) 16:25, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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