Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Americas Champions League

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 02:00, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Per WP:CRYSTAL, "Individual scheduled or expected future events should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." The references used in the article suggest that this proposed tournament is not certain to take place. It mentions that the group that is proposing this competition has "there are wheels spinning on a potential Americas Champions League" and will "hopefully [create] the area’s premier club competition", but that "there is no timetable" for the event. The head of the group in charge of organizing this competition adds "With my company, MP & Silva, we have started the possibility to launch an Americas Champions League". It seems clear that this competition is anything but certain to take place. Bmf 051 (talk) 04:19, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep I disagree with the deletion rationale – this is a concept rather than a scheduled event, and I don't think WP:CRYSTAL applies. Many of us in the UK will remember the proposed Atlantic League, which received a good deal of coverage, but never materialised. I think the coverage for this idea (including in the international media) suggests it is notable enough for an article. What I am concerned about here is the fact that the article reads like a press release by MP & Silva, but this can be resolved by a rewrite rather than deletion. Number 57 12:24, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - There was some media coverage about this when MP & Silva made this suggestion, but nothing since. There's no indication that it's going anywere. As Notability isn't temporary WP:NTEMP it doesn't meet WP:GNG. No reason this idea can't be mentioned on the page about this company. Nfitz (talk) 22:23, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Nfitz (talk) 18:57, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - doesn't have the same kind of significant and widespread (over a couple of years) coverage as the Atlantic League. I'm not convinced with what's there. GiantSnowman 19:18, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Has received significant coverage as a proposition in multiple top level international media outlets and so seems clearly notable per GNG. The argument above that the competition isn't going anywhere seems to be jumping the gun a bit as there is clearly sourced reports of activity only a few months ago. Either way, this is not a reason for deletion as the proposal has already received significant coverage. Fenix down (talk) 08:44, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Where is this significant coverage? It received routine coverage in September 2015 when the marketing company behind it made their announcement. But like the signing of a 16-year-old by Big Deal FC, there's little more. Nfitz (talk) 16:00, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete  The sentence in the article, "This issue will certainly be addressed through careful, analytical planning and scheduling." is in Wikipedia's voice, and is only one example of a WP:NOTPROMOTION problem.  I looked at one of the sources dated 15 August 2015, where Silva "revealed to SBI on Wednesday", "We are starting this and we think it will be feasible. We will see."  Wikipedia can wait as well.  Unscintillating (talk) 23:39, 24 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I'm not seeing, nor am I finding, any in-depth coverage from independent reliable sources. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:17, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - Have you read the article, there are lengthy articles on the proposed competition cited there from Bloomberg, ESPN and the Guardian amongst numerous other outlets. Fenix down (talk) 14:31, 25 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - This competition is still in the planning stages. It's not like the UEFA Champions League which has existed and had all the logistics worked out; this proposed competition still requires the approval of FIFA, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL, and every national federation before any timetable could be established. Once all the logistics are hammered and the first competition is definitively scheduled, the article can be recreated, but that could be years away. Obvious WP:CRYSTALBALL. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 17:27, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.