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On 28 February 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Artificial intelligence image generation. The result of the discussion was not moved.

The article seems to include only amateurish or research styled images (astronaut riding a horse on the moon and "cyberpunk" robot). Even taking into account the (at this point old) viral examples, I believe it does not represent the breadth of images out there. Considering it's against the rules and very much frowned upon to upload ones own work - do you have any ideas on how we might expand the article in this regard? To be clear, my reasoning is not "these images stylistically suck" but rather they do not represent even a fraction of what's possible with current advancements in the field.

As an aside, I earnestly think the images of the pope, Trump getting arrested, and the mouse do not belong simply because they are memes and for the purposes of this article not art (or they should at least be smaller than the other examples). Sojoelous (talk) 07:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the current images are almost completely weighted towards user-generated images from amateur artists from the past two years. This has been an ongoing problem. And, yes, we shouldn't have people uploading their own work into this article. We should remove probably half of the current images, particularly the unsourced user-generated images, and replace them with reliably sourced museum-quality artwork from notable professional artists from the entire history of AI art. I will work on this at some point soon. In the meantime, the following unsourced user-generated images could be easily removed: the cow[1], the landscape[2], the robot[3], and the astronaut[4] Elspea756 (talk) 13:30, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Considering the first image appears to be generated by another user (not even considering it's an old Dalle one) - could we just... replace it with a better one? Or at least, a more up-to-date example?

Outside of that, I'm not sure what the policy is on using something from say Holly Herndon. Sojoelous (talk) 11:29, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know I haven’t been too involved with this article, but I keep seeing edits and reverts. This makes me think there is some kind of edit war going on.CycoMa1 (talk) 01:17, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

From what I can see, PK-WIKI has added the same image to the article at least three times[5][6][7] and it has been removed at least three times by three different editors, The Squirrel Conspiracy[8], Belbury[9], and myself [10]. There is a discussion above about the article being slanted toward recent events, and another discussion above about too many examples of meme images. Besides just being another recent meme image that had been already removed by two previous editors, I thought the creation of a new section called "Social and political" with just this example was unnecessary and out of place with the rest of the article, since there are already many examples of social and political use of AI art already described in the article, including Trump memes and Stephanie Dinkins' award for creating AI art based on the interests and cultures of people of color.Elspea756 (talk) 01:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There's no "edit war"... I added the image, reverted WP:UCR, then added additional sources in response to an editor questioning the importance of AI to the image.

I have not added this image because it is "slanted toward recent events", but rather because the "mega-viral" spread of this AI-generated image made world-wide headlines with major significant coverage of the AI image itself in: The Washington Post; BBC; Al Jazeera; The New York Times; NBC News; Los Angeles Times; etc. That brings it beyond being "just being another recent meme image"; WP:DUE weight requires this article to cover a specific piece of AI art that has been shared by 50 million users, had headlines written about it in every major global newspaper, and (according to reliable sources) for the first time raises major questions about the use of AI art in protests. PK-WIKI (talk) 02:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the lazy comment.

What I mean to say was I kept seeing reverts here.CycoMa1 (talk) 02:44, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/of-interest/2024/06/30/ai-art-facebook-slop-artificial-intelligence/ Mapsax (talk) 00:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 19 August 2024 and 7 December 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Arearic, Josephinebradley24, Rayhan Noufal Arayilakath, Asupt, Lukeg10 (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Rayhan Noufal Arayilakath (talk) 19:59, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A paragraph about Eric Millikin has been added to the section on Early AI work. However his early work was web comics not AI. The cited AI work is much later and not part of the story of the rest of this section. Is there any survey of art history that includes this artist in this period? no. So it should be removed from this section but Ohnoitsjamie keeps reverting the fix. Please discuss the choice here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.46.142.161 (talk) 20:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The sources in that paragraph mention that he was doing AI works during that time period. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 20:55, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For example this comprehensive history doesn't mention him: https://timeline.lerandom.art/#/chapter-7 They mention no specific work because there isn't one. Why base a big paragraph on one offhand and unspecific comment? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.46.142.161 (talk) 21:01, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The source isn't specific about his work in the 80s, but is specific about a piece in 2009, which still falls within the scope of that section. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:05, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The paragraph has bogus claims like "In 2009, Millikin won the Pulitzer Prize along with several other awards for his artificial intelligence art that was critical of government corruption". He did not. The prize was won by these guys: https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/detroit-free-press-staff-and-notably-jim-schaefer-and-ml-elrick Where is this artwork? Is it really important enough to list here? No. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.46.142.161 (talk) 21:16, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the Eric Millikin article; his artwork was "part of the portfolio" of the Detroit Free Press coverage of the corruption in Lansing. In any case, I've removed the sentence about the Pulitzer because it's not relevant in this context. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 01:09, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's still wrong to include this artist in this section of history. What scholar includes it? Please provide a reference. In addition to the lerandom website above, here's a typical computer art history book: https://archive.org/details/gca-book/mode/2up Millikin is not included but the others from this section are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.46.142.161 (talk) 20:20, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]