Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by ZemenfesKidus

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Files uploaded by ZemenfesKidus (talk · contribs)

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Historical photos, paintings, drawings, documents. Proper author/date/country of creation information should be supplied to determine copyrights status and license tags corrected.

P.S. There's also no indication (in either case) of how old the artwork itself is. P.P.S. Also it just now occurred to me that's why the uploader named this file this way -- to show it came from am:. (Sometimes I'm quick that way.) So much for the file being their "own work"...-- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:51, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • According to Google Images, this appears on Twitter, presumably prior to being uploaded here. Historical rendering presumably in PD, but don't we still need the source (and date) of this image even for that? -- Gyrofrog (talk) 01:47, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think this may be one image of two diptychs folding panels. A Google Image search on this single image doesn't turn up anything else, but each half of it does. It's in the Suntory Museum of Art (link). As noted further below (next section), I'm not sure if/how copyright applies to someone's digital image (if, indeed, that's what was used in this instance) of an artwork that's otherwise old enough to fall under PD. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 01:47, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

EugeneZelenko (talk) 05:48, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've gone through some of the above, and all of the ones listed below in the next section -- see comments throughout. Thus far only one of the files seems like it might have been the uploader's own work. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 01:47, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(More) Files uploaded by ZemenfesKidus (talk · contribs)

Unlikely to be own work: small/inconsistent resolutions, missing EXIF, could be found on other web sites with Google Images.

  • Of all the uploader's files I've looked at (so far), this one is more likely to be the uploader's own work. This one has camera metadata, and does not otherwise show up in a Google Images search. The metadata's create date matches what the uploader specified (unlike most of the other files, which just used the upload date as the creation date). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Appeared in some sort of press release (link) in Mar. 2021. That, in turn, gives the source as "FONTAINE HUGUES (2020) Me’ne’lik. Une Abyssinian des photographes (1868-1960)", which is a book (ISBN 979-10-92157-01-7). I don't know how that shakes out (where Commons is concerned), with a copyrighted book being the likely source of what's undoubtedly (by now) a PD photo. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Appears in a blog post (link) from Aug. 2021 by the author of a book in which this image appears, Ethiopia Illustrated: Sacred Paintings, Maps and Drawings : an Anthology (ISBN 9789994469123). I'd imagine the photograph, as such, is protected by copyright (along with the rest of the book), even if its subject (the painting itself) is not. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Appeared in a blog post (link) in Oct. 2019. The blogger, in turn, says "Emperor Yohannes Flag photographed by Achamyeleh Tamiru from the residence of Yohannes Palace Mekelle". (No date.) Otherwise Google Images shows numerous appearances on Facebook. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 23:26, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

EugeneZelenko (talk) 05:50, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ethiopia is a 50 year jurisdiction. 1972 is the cutoff year for PD in Ethiopia, I have only looked at 4 images so far and all 4 are clearly in the public domain. Every noob chooses the default setting of "own work" when uploading, so fix, rather than the lazy approach of nominating for deletion. --RAN (talk) 13:48, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Doesn't "lazy approach" cut both ways? The uploader seems to have gotten the message but went and made further uploads they tagged as "own work". I don't think "noob" still applies. I'm not sure if it's relevant here that the user was indef. blocked on en:, although most or all of these are cross-wiki uploads from there. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:20, 8 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I would love it if every user loaded each image perfectly, but you have to separate the good images from the bad images, which requires time and effort. --RAN (talk) 01:56, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete vs. Keep

Ethiopia is a 50 year jurisdiction. 1972 is the cutoff year for PD in Ethiopia. Please help sort which ones are prior to 1972 to keep, newer ones need to be deleted. --RAN (talk) 02:05, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Keep

File:How St. Gelawdewos Killed the Sobäd’at.png work from Narga Selassie is public domain of painting older than 100 years because the church is historic and all artifacts are old and out of copyright protection. I recommend to ZemenfesKidus to acquire the author and date of the work that justify its copyright status to this time. The Supermind (talk) 19:34, 10 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: part of the nomination, kept another part. Top section: Deleted those images of which no information was given. Deleted images where uploader added the text “delete it” on the file page. Kept images which were obviously old enough (50 years for any anonymous work, 25 years for photographs per Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Ethiopia). Some images are older then 120 years an can be kept anyway because in PD. Bottom section: Deleted or kept per conclusions of User:Gyrofrog (thanks). Except those which are photos in PD (like Haile Selassie, who died more then 25 years ago), or photos of 2D artwork in PD (such a photo does not obtain a new copyright). --Ellywa (talk) 17:28, 15 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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