Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is sex Lies and Spray Tans with me, Cheryl
Burke and iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome back to sex Lize and
Spray Tans today. I'm so happy to say we are
keeping it in the family, the iHeart family, that is,
with my co host Jillian Escotto.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Jill is the co host.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Of Valentine in the Morning on one oh four point
three MYFM in Los Angeles and across the country on
iHeart Radio stations for the past ten years. She brings
her listeners the entertainment headlines they need to know to
start their day, which makes her the perfect person for
today's show. Jill has been featured on the KTLA five
Morning News, the Morning Rap on k CAL nine, and

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she is an ambassador for the National Multiple Sclerosis Society.
We are happy to have her. Welcome to sex Lize
and Spray Tans. I'm not sure if you've heard this podcast,
but you know, anything goes basically.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I love it. I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well, welcome. Let's get right into Kim Kardashian Taylor Swift.
Here's what I have to say about you. Kim Kay
is the headline. TMZ reports that when it comes to
embracing beef. Taylor Swift is a master because she resurrected
her feud with Kim Kardashian during a London performance of
the Erastour. Are you a Swifty?

Speaker 2 (01:11):
I am? I'm a big Taylor Swift fan.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Didn't you just go? I was stalking you on your Instagram?
Weren't you just at a Swift concert?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I went to her show at so Far in LA
and then we're going to go again in New Orleans
in October.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Oh, you are a swift early Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
No, Joe, you know some people are like I mean,
I consider myself a swifty though I haven't seen her
in concerts, so I guess I'm not really a swifty yet.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
You can swifty, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah, you still can swat her bracelets. They're so cute,
the friendship bracelets. Ow can you only get them there?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
No, you can make them.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
And then people I've traded with random people, I've been
wearing them, and then they'll see them, and then they'll
come up and then they'll want to exchange. And even
like at a coffee shop, at a restaurant, like they're everywhere.
The Swifties are everywhere. You can trade whenever, wherever.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
And don't get on her bad side. Put it that way,
like Kim and Kanye have I mean fired, I guess
Taylor did. She said, On the other hand, it really
makes me think about how every time someone talks shit,
it just makes me work even harder and it makes
me even tougher. So it also makes me incredibly thankful
for those people. If the audience was confused, Taylor clarified
by debuting thank you Amy, am I saying that right

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or imy.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
No, it's Amy.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
So At the Eras tour, Taylor has these surprise songs
during her set, and it's always different songs, and she
kind of gives fans a little glimpse into the song
and you know, the meeting behind it or when she
wrote in all of that. Well, thank You Amy is
a song where she is singing to this woman named Amy,
and it's spelled A I, M E E. And if

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you look at the title of the song, thank You Amy,
the K is capitalized and the I and the M
and Amy are capitalized, so the only letters that are.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Capitalized are K, I, M so yes. But Taylor is.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Usually very She doesn't show those clues as big as
that is right there, like everybody thinks like she's talking
about Kim in this song, even though she's singing for Jenny.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
No.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
No, the only thing is that we have is the
capitalized letters in the title of the song.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
So is it like that?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
When was it Beyonce someone with a good hair? Becky
Becky Becky with the good hair? Now I feel bad
for anyone that names Amy, you know, like it sucks.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
It sucks, and such an interesting spelling of Amy too.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
And then so you think like, oh, then she's singing
about Kim, but she does say in the song like
I've changed her name. Nobody knows this song is about you,
accept me and you. So everybody assumes this song is
about Kim. And there are few that has been going
on for so long.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
I know, do we know if they actually have gone
to a concert. I'm sure her kids want to go
to a concert. I mean, who doesn't.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
North has posted a TikTok using a Taylor Swift song before.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I think both of them might have.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Kim and North sang to a Taylor Swift song and
a TikTok, so I believe that she is a fan
of Taylor.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I know and bet you too. When this happened. She
was with Kanye obviously, so but if she really did
edit that part out just to make her right or
sound like, Okay, she's not lying, that's not okay.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, And we found out later that that video was edited.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
So for sure, yes, yes, because did Taylor leak the
one that was not edited.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Or somebody was able to post I don't know who,
but someone was able to post the entire thing. And
we did, in fact find out that Taylor never gave
her approval to use that lyric in that song.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
God, how embarrassing, Like, just drop it already, like just
say you're wrong and move on, you know. Yeah, anyway,
that's some complicated stuff. I hate when I'm in beef
with anyone. I mean, not on the public level like that,
but just in general, like someone has to take accountability
and just put it to rest.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Right, Yeah, does someone say you're sorry that we can
move on? Wells Clearly it's Kim that needs to say
she's sorry. Okay, So Taylor, you're good, You're good. You
keep doing you.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Caitlin Bristow, have you been following so do you do
you know anything about I'm a fan of Jason's new girlfriend. Actually,
kat Yeah, I love her. I just found her on
Instagram just even before this was announced. I know she's like,
this is what she does. She's a content creator, but
she's hysterical.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
She seems very fine. Follow her.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes, And I knew her before she started dating Jason
and you know her know her well? No, I just
know her from TikTok. But I loved Jason and Caitlin
together as well. So when all of that happened, I
was like, oh, dang it, are you married. No, I'm
getting married next month.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Oh congrats you Okay, so you can kind of like
you guys. So she was engaged to Jason and during
this time basically said to him, look, you know this
is the podcast world. She kind of like said, it's
my world, Like, we don't need you to be doing
a podcast. And then I guess he created a podcast
behind her back. But like, look, I don't know. I

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think that they're I don't know who's that fault, but
I think when you're in a relationship, you have to
support each other regardless of what you know, occupation, you
want to do, whether that other person is in it
or not, as long as you talk about it and
are transparent about it.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
It should be fine, right.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
So from my understanding, Jason worked at a bank, Caitlyn
had her podcast, and she was an influencer, and she
was happy with that separation.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
She liked their two separate lives.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
But then Jason has said in interviews that he the
conversation was started for him to leave the bank after
Caitlin said something on her podcast about their personal life,
and it was, you know, talking about them hooking up.
It got back to the office. The Jason's office didn't
really care for it. They were kind of saying something like, Okay,

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you know, it's a little too much of your personal
life out there. We need to have a conversation, you know,
the social media post, the influencing, the podcast, they kind of.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Have to stop or at least let us approve them first.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
And Jason said it was that conversation that got him
to leave the bank. Yeah, right, me too. So then
he leaves and then he decides that maybe he can
have a financial podcast. And I believe Caitlyn was again
sad at first. She thought, you know, podcasting was her world,
that was her life, and she kind of liked the
fact that they had these separate lives.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
But they have a separate podcast, it's still a separate life, right, Yes, yeah,
so different.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
And I believe that everybody's feelings are valid. This is
what Caitlyn feels. She feels that she was betrayed, and
I understand that she feels that way.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
But like you said earlier, you know.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
If this came up, like with my fiance, if he
decided he wanted to work in morning radio, I would
be happy and I would I would support it and
give them tips and you know, you know, we'd have
that in common, and you know, just people are different.
But Kaitlyn really felt betrayed when he started that podcast.
She thought it was behind her back.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
I mean, if he didn't like just tell her what
it is, then yes, if all of a sudden it
was in production and then she just found out like that,
that's messed up, right, Yes, definitely. And you would probably
be upset too if your fiance just all of a
sudden was in the morning radio and just hear him
in the morning on your way to work, You're.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Like, what the hell, Well, he's just down the hall
in the next studio.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
How long how long have you guys been together?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
A little over two years? Okay, did you meet.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
We met through mutual friends. I had been seeing Ony years. No,
I was on every app you could think of. I
had no luck whatsoever. And two of my best friends
knew him and they weren't even trying to set us up.
We just all hung out in a group and I
just I thought he was very handsome, and we started

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off as just purely friends and then it just turned
into something more and it's definitely been worth the way.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
You know. I've I'm divorced and I'm am enjoying single life.
Like I'm not even dating, and I don't want to.
I definitely don't want to try a dating app. I'm
just like, this just defeats the purpose of like not
judging a book by its cover, you know what I mean.
You're just wiping and it's I don't know, you seem
to not have had a great experience either doing it.
And I heard that multiple times.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
It's it's scary out there.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, it's just rare now to like meet somebody through
friends nowadays, you.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Know, right just out in the wild and randomly.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
My obg yn I just met her yesterday, but she's like,
I have a single guy for you. She just sent
me a picture and look canceled.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Again. I'm judging.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
I'm judging him by I'm judging him already and I'm like,
this is the reason why I don't want to see
pictures like just let's just do this or not. But
the opg Wyn like, I love her, thank you so
much for doing this, But you've just met me and
my vagina yesterday.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
So anyway, okay, speaking of let's move on to Harry Jowsey.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Okay, yes, nick Las Jay says Harry Jowsey did nothing
but solidified the reputation he wanted to shed on perfect Match.
Have you been following this.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
I was rooting for Harry because you know, he's been
on a few these dating reality shows and dancing with
the stars of course, and and I was. I was
rooting for him to stand by what he said about
that he was going to be a changed man.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
But do you believe did you?

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Like?

Speaker 1 (10:11):
I don't know if it's me, but I didn't believe
a word that he said, Like, I am very sensitive
to body language and just like his tone, it wasn't believable.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Oh see, I'm completely naive.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
And I was really because the dancing in me, I'm
just like the dancer. I'm just so sad. I can
just tell by looking at the way he said it,
like his body language, he's just saying things to make
the person feel good instead of saying I think he's
still trying to figure out who he is really as
a man, and I don't. I think, first of all,
he's too immature to be with someone like Jessica. She's

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dropped dead gorgeous, she's a luge. Yes, I love her,
She's just freaking amazing, and her daughter, like, he is
not ready to have a kid.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
And I think in maybe the first episode of the season,
he was talking about, you know, wanting to change. And
then in that same sense, since he said, don't let
your girlfriend stop you from finding your wife, and I
was like, oh.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Harry, no, I remember that. Actually yeah no.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
And I was one of the fans of Dancing with
the Stars that loved him and Riley, you vote for him?
I voted for Riley, okay, God, like, I love Riley.
And then I'm part of the fans that like wanted
do you believe the show Man's and I hope you
didn't know? No, okay, good, I am not that naive. No, no,
not not that quiet, quite naive.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
I'm just proud of Jessica, like now with two different
dudes who just like she's just too good.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
And I hope she knows that.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
I hope it's not taking a toll on her mental health,
thinking like maybe she's not good enough for these guys,
Like it just shows you, even someone who's dropped oat gorgeous.
When a man cheats, he cheats, like period.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah, And I like how Nick Lache, who hosts the show,
he was rooting for her and because he knew her
from Love is Blind and so that says a lot
too because the host, you know, shouldn't really pick favorites
during that season and said that too in the article. Yeah,
but I love that he loved her and was root
for her, so you know that that's she's a good guy.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Maybe she shouldn't do these dating shows anymore. Talk to
some friends, find some neuture friends.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Me and her both, I know we're going to try
Brian Austin Green and Sharana Burgess. So they've been engaged
now not that long, but like they're not rushing to
the altar, which I have to say, me being I

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was rushed I mean I was rushing to the altar,
and I have to say, if I could do it
all over again, I wouldn't put such pressure on, you know,
getting a wedding together. And I think it was just
it was a production.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Yeah, and how about you, like, what's your wedding going
to be?

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Like, we are doing super super small.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
His family is on o Wahu, so I think we
have maybe twenty six people total that are coming to
the ceremony.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, and it's on o Waho.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Smart. Yeah, saving money by doing it far away from
where your friends are first of all.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
And whoever your real friends are, they'll they'll be there
or not.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
You know, it's just my immediate family for the ceremony,
like my sisters and my parents, and then his family too.
But we are going to have like reception a little
party later on in October. But we decided we just
wanted it to be all about each other and our family,
and so we're doing it super super small. And it's
been so easy planning and just laid back like, oh

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this is ideal.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Actually, if I were to ever get married again, that's
probably how I would do it. Have you ever been
married before? I have yesh, Is that why you think?

Speaker 2 (13:35):
I think so. I think that has a lot to
do with it.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Did you have a big wedding your first time?

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Huge?

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Oh yeah, And it was one of those where if
I met you one time five years ago, I'll see
at the wedding, like everybody was there and I don't remember,
you know, meeting or seeing half of the people, even.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Like I felt like I was doing a dress rehearsal
from Dancing with the Stars when I was and yeah,
I mean right then and there.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
You know, if that wasn't a red flock, I'm not
sure what was. But yeah, I actually I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Even like I saw my sister cry then I started
because I reacted to her cry.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
But I was like, this.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Feels so weird, like this whole thing. And I hired
Mindy Weiss. It was a thing I remember like pictures
and it was beautiful. I turned the fountain into a
freaking runway, okay, at the freaking Fairmont del Mar. Like
how crazy? Like she said, Mindy said, you remind me
of Kanye. And I'm like, I don't know if this

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is a good thing. Oh She's like and she's like no, no, no,
he's very detailed. Because I also didn't want military seating.
I wanted everything. You know, like when it's more of
a circle, it feels more connected.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I think. Okay for me to have like rows of people,
that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Yeah, I went to the I mean, I'm rhinestone hers.
She kisses, okay, so oh my, yeah, that's that was
another red flag.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Anyway. But Bryan and Sharna they have like a Brady
bunch of kids, right, so yes, really, I think they're
doing this this smart way, and.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
They're in a new house, I think, she said. And
they're just they're super busy. And Shanna said, I've got
the ring. I'm happy and that's all that.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
But your own time. It just got a nice ring.
Oh yeah, I'm cartier Ooh okay, yeah no.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
They were just here for my fortieth birthday and they're
like there's a sense of ease when you're around them,
you know. I love that is a good sign.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
I love them together. I was happy with all together
me too.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
It's so surreal though, because I'm like, I was a
huge to an O fan when I was a little girl.
Oh mega som and now it was more more for
the Luke Perry you know, Rest and Peace.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I wasn't allowed to watch it.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Oh interesting, that's good parents. Probably I shouldn't have been.
I mean, my first movie I watched was Pretty Woman.
I was like three, that's not cute.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I know.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, it's complicated.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Great movie though, great movie, totally.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
I love it. Shane and Wolfler. She endured horrible heartbreak
and lost. Now she's fighting for a new life. And
she said, it's my biggest regret. So listen, Shana, I've known.
We used to be really good friends. Actually when she
did the show back in nineteen sixty one, like I
don't even season three, which was two thousand and seven,

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and when I hung out with her a lot, like
we always used to go out, we went to hide,
you know, the whole like Hollywood night life. That was
us in the middle of it. And she it was
just really tough for her because of her kids and
then having two guys that you know, that are huge
stars in their own right, and then infidelity and all

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of that. Right, so it's like and then she was
on the number one show at the time, and it
was just it's a lot. It was a lot of pressure,
and I'm just happy that she's single. Now and that
she's reflecting now her hate for the Kardashians. I guess
that's normal. But they're really nice people. The Kardashians are
really nice people, like I know. I hope that she
gets over that hump too one day.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
I like that she said, like, I don't have to
like them, and I can't even I can't even begin
to imagine how hard that must be. You know, breaking
up with someone is one thing, but then you know,
having kids with someone and you seeing that person with
their new partner, with their new kids everywhere.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Everywhere, that's got to be so hard.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
And so she I like the fact that she's just saying,
I don't have to like them.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I she just has to like herself, you know, exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, And she's really loved Travis, you know, and that
was hard for her because there was something when she
did Dancing with the Stars, there was infidelity going on
with not necessarily with the Kardashian not with Courtney, but
with someone else, and it was just so it's heartbreaking,
you know, Like I've been through relationships too with infidelity
and it's just been it's not fun, put it that way,

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and you always blame yourself that's your initial reaction obviously
until you go see a therapist.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
So anyway, yeah, to I just have more power to her.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
I hope she has a great connection with her kids,
which it sounds like she does.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I love seeing that because I wasn't sure. And I
love seeing that she is good with the kids, which
I'm I'm thankful for that.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah. Same, Billy Ray Cyrus, what an interesting guy. Okay,
this is mess. I didn't have band, Oh we should.
I can't wait to tell you the story that I
witnessed when he did Dancing with the Stars. Okay, so
I didn't abandon my strange wife over her masectomy. I mean,
I love Billy Ray. He was always so nice to me.
But I have to tell you the story. So we

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have we have dress rehearsal right right before we go live,
about two hours prior to the show, and we do
this as if it's the real thing, except it's like
they are rated version back then, because Tom Bergern would
always just talk shit and like it was so funny,
like we wish that we could air this, like this
is great television.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
You know.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
So everyone's swearing and everyone's but taking our dancing very
seriously and also the director has to light us right
like because we have to get on our marks. And
sometimes it's you know, us dancers and celebs who are nervous.
We can't stand still, like there's just no way anyway.
So it was happening. We were all nervous. It was
right before, like right when it was going to end
our dresshearsal. Our stage manager tells Billy Ray, can you

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get on your mark so that you know, the director
can light you, And he's been asking like three four
times at that time, Billy Ray kicked our stage manager
out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Straight up donkey kicked him.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
No, yeah, and the stage manager he was being so
nice like I know him personally, like you know, but
don't kick any like, don't kick him, let alone, don't
kick anyone. It turned into a hot it was like
and his time was up.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
After that.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Oh it was not okay, like it came out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Just so it was not an accident. It was full on.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Oh no, no, it was very much intentional like this
was because he was super like agro or maybe nervous,
like look that's fine, but you can't physically, no, you know,
hurt somebody because you need to do your job. You're
not doing this for free either, by.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
The way, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, it's a job bad.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
For his partner Karina because also I think too like
he was getting crap from the judges, like he wasn't
a great dancer. I mean obviously, like he had to
have known this. But still it's nothing like it's one
thing to observe the show. It's one thing to be
a part of the show.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Oh I'm completely totally different experience. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
So as far as like what this what I'm reading, like,
most likely maybe it happened, but regardless, you know, it
is what it is. Clearly they're not getting along. They
show probably separate.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
It's a whole lot of back and forth with this
and the allegations, and especially when you get medical things involved,
you know, talking about the breast cancer and the mistectomy
and dates and all.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
That is just a lot of a lot of back
and forth.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Yeah, it does not sound like a fun situation to
even talk about. So let's just move on.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
Okay, Selma Blair, did you see her? I?

Speaker 1 (21:05):
First of all, I love her so much. We've been
dming while she's been in Paris. You know, we follow
each other on TikTok and Instagram, and she's just been
there celebrating her birthday. And I'm just, first of all,
so happy to see her healthy, yes, and that she's
even has the energy to do all of this, because
I mean, I've never gone to Paris fashion Week. I
can only imagine the hor rend, like how crazy it

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is over there right now, and she's just killing it.
She's got front row seats, everyone wants to dresser, and
she's wearing a tie that's with hair like an extension braided,
Like what's the big deal?

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Yeah, people were freaking out about this tie. I was
just so thankful it matched her actual hair, so it
looks like it might have could have even been like
her own braid going down as a tie.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
But at fashion week, Oh, she should have worn like
a thing. I thought it was at first, I thought
she looked great.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
And I have multiple sclerosis, and she is such an
inspiration and I I'm so happy that she's even able
to move to walk, let alone be there at fashion week.
And I mean, people are giving her such a hard
time about it, But aren't you supposed to make a statement, like,
aren't supposed to wear these I've seen crazier things.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
I think that she's doing exactly what she needs to do,
and people are doing exactly what they need to do,
which is talk about it, and we're talking about her
because of it. So more power to her. But she's
been looking gorgeous in her strength. Yes, it's so inspiring.
It's just awesome just to see her up and moving
and celebrating herself because it's needed.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Yes, and she's done so much for you know, those
of us living with MS and just bringing so much
awareness to it. So I'm I really are you doing.
I'm good, I'm okay. I'm not on any treatments right now.
And you know, it comes and goes. And I have
a mild case. I'm nowhere near how Selma Hazard or
Chrisina Applegate you know, I know she has.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
It really bad as well.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I'm I've been very lucky with my diagnosis.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Oh good, good, And I wish you nothing but strength.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Jack Osborne, I danced with him as well, and he
I think it only got triggered when we were about
to make the final because he was stressful. Yeah he
will be blind in one eye, Yeah, yeah, that'll do it.
And he blamed it on me, But I know Tee
John is not my fault. It's fine.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Kenya Moore.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Kenya Moore is not returning to Real Housewives of Atlanta
season sixteen, weighing legal options.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Do you watch Real Housewives? I don't, Kait good.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Because I was about to say, if you do, you
have so much, like there's no way you can fit
this all in your schedule. No.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
No, this is unfortunately a franchise that I can't Yeah.
Now I don't have the time to watch.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
That's like equivalent to me and the Bachelor Bachelorette can't
do it.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, but I saw this story and then I saw
that there was just so many different allegations and different
stories and it was a little hard to follow. But
TMZ is saying that she hasn't been fired from Real
Housewives Now Atlanta, but that she's just taking a break.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well she's gonna be if she's going to sue them.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, right, that doesn't look I mean, look, at the
end of the day, all I know is Kenya and
my interaction with her when she was on the show.
She's so sweet. I didn't think she was. I thought
she would be a little sass here, and you know,
you make your judgments when you see somebody on television,
And she couldn't have been the complete She's just so opposite.
And she handled the show really well. I mean, she's
a hard worker, Like she didn't show any type of

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like discouragement. She wasn't like, she wasn't saucy with the judges.
She just worked. She put her head down and worked hard,
like I'll never forget going to the studio and her
and Brandon were rehearsing. They were the last people there really,
so yeah, and so I admire that.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
And she wasn't walking around like she knew, like she
just worked hard. Okay, And as far as I'm concerned,
you know, look, I think Bravo's and not necessarily in
a great position in general right now with everyone suing them. Yes,
I like I've been wanting to ask my threads account
like and my followers this question. But what are your
thoughts do you believe reality t be? Is uh something

(25:02):
that like you'll need an age like you have to
be eighteen or over to watch? Like is it good
for oh, the younger generation to be consuming such That's
an interesting question toxic reality content.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Because everything is so dramatic and not necessarily.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
How everybody's day to day is.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
No.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
So I think that's a good point to have it
before an older audience because kids, younger kids are going
to see it and think like, oh, this is how
all these friends any.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Have dance moms, you know, and let me just tell
it being a part of it, like you, they whisper
this stuff in your ear, the producers like this is
so scripted to get you riled up, Like that's just
what they do. And they I'm pretty sure they do
the same thing on Housewives.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Oh, I'm sure they do bandomump rules and all.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
I feel like all of them, Yes, Bachelor, Yeah, I
feel like it's there's definitely this added scripted portion too.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Has to be all of them. Yeah, I'm pretty sure
she expected Bravo to have her back, you think, Yeah,
of course.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
She's been a part of this show and this whole
brand for god knows how long, and so I'm sure
she's hurting.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
And the woman, the brittany woman, the newer.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Is she do you think that she hasn't been on
as long? Okay, not that I I mean, maybe I'm mistaken,
but I'm pretty sure Kenya is like one of I
would say, not one of the originals, but she was
close to that. Yeah, and with Nini not there anymore either,
it's like, you know, I would say that she's an
og Now. I don't know. I just think that like

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what we have to understand too, and I and I've
been in a similar situation, like this is a business, unfortunately,
regardless even though you're putting out all of your whole
life on television to you know, satisfy also the business,
they just don't have anyone's back emotionally unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
And they have the code of conduct that they say
that they have for the next.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Code, I would like to see that code of conduct
like anything goes as far as I'm concerned, except showing
the insides of your body, Like I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
What click they can choose what's going to be investigated.
And of course they make people.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
They don't make people drink, but of course they provide
enough alcohol to where if someone wants to get drunk,
it's not hard. Yeah, yeah, you know, I don't know. Anyway,
Let's talk about George Santos, because I what are your
thoughts on political figures doing Dancing with the Stars.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I I like to think of these shows like Dancing
with the Stars as my escape. I know where to
find the political If I want to see something political,
I know where to go.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
And the second that I see someone like with Sean.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Spice an Dancing with the Stars, I know there was
some backlash and then Rudy Giuliani on the Mask Singer.
I feel like the second that someone pops up on
my screen, I'm immediately taken out of that escape and
that fun and you know, I'm brought back to the
real world, where for me when there's when we're talking
about the election.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
And politics, I get anxiety.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
I I need to like, I need to remove myself
from it, and that's where I like to go to
these shows and like to be entertained.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
What if President Obama was a part of it?

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Love it?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Really? So it's not. I love how I honest you are.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
But does that bring you back to the politics though,
and reminding you of what's happening in the world.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
It would it? Honestly? Would I think? Anybody? Yeah, no
matter what, anybody who's there.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
And I understand just get like I understand the controversial
aspect of the show. But then higher Gypsy Rose then
that's better.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah, they want people talking about the casting, they want
people talking about the contestants.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
But any other thoughts about George Santos. Maybe he can dance,
you think, No.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I don't know. I don't know if he can if
he can dance. Okay, Well tell me about you.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
I've been on the air for ten years. I've been
working for iHeart for twenty I started off answering phones
at Kiss FM and Los Angeles and then just worked
my way up and have now been a part of
Valentine in the Morning for ten years on the air.
And if you're in LA, you can listen to us
on one four point three MIFM or on the iHeartRadio
app R on a bunch of different stations across the country.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh so it's not just La then you can just
listen anywhere.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Really Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
And you're getting married, and do you have a wedding dress?
I do. I have my dress.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
We've got everything set like, everything is just so simple
and has been very, very easy. So we're getting ready
the end of July and hoping to maybe start a
family soon.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
And he's uh, he's great. He's been been worth the.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Wait, honeymoon. You can go on a honeymoon.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
We'd love to. We're thinking maybe Asia. Nice, we're on
that around.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
I've been to Asia a lot.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Tokyo. We want to do so.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
I did his dance show there. It's freaking amazing. It's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
Everybody says that it's just beautiful. It's clean, it's gorgeous.
You need to go. Okay, I think you just chose
our honeymoon. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Anytime, I'm always here, I'll be right here. You zoom,
same zooming link.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Thank you, Jill, Thank you, Cheryl.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Thank you to my amazing co host Jillian Escoto for
coming and co hosting our Headlines and Hot Topics weekly series.
If you're in La, you can listen to weekday mornings
on one oh four point three MYFM, or just search
Valentine in the Morning on.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
The free iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Everyone, make sure to follow Jillian Instagram at Jillian Elaine,
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pro dancers, and even people who have worked behind the

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scenes where we talk about their experience on your favorite
dance show, Dancing with the Stars. We're going to be
taking a break for the fourth of July holiday, but
make sure to come back and listen to my conversation
with Damian Whitewood on July eighth.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Have a great holiday, Love you guys until next time.