Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jamie Phoenix

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The result was delete, fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. Jayjg ^(talk) 02:58, 5 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie Phoenix

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BLP lacking reliable sources. Previously deleted in 2006 (attack) and 2009 (WP:ATHLETE). Currently has 2 refs, 1 is a blog, the other doesn't even include his first name and contradicts the article's stats by listing only 0s. -- Jeandré, 2010-08-29t14:07z 14:07, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 18:32, 29 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello, I've researched most of the stats independently, the problem is they can't be referenced as they are drawn from multiple sources that don't generally meet WP:RS. However, I am confident they are at least very close to being correct and also feel that it isn't general practice here to require sourcing for every single instance of number of appearances. Lastly, I would say the article meets WP:ATHLETE#Association_football as I'm pretty sure the Albanian league is fully professional (despite not being listed yet at WP:FPL, so keep. 85.228.208.58 (talk) 11:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. The 'gay porn star' deletion from 2006 wasn't necessarily an attack page, as there is actually a gay porn star by this name (different person, obviously). 85.228.208.58 (talk) 12:00, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- I've added a few references, some of the sources are a bit dubious but they're not being used for any controversial statement. I am about 85% sure the Albanian Superliga is fully professional, but I haven't yet found a source that says anything on the subject either way. 85.228.208.58 (talk) 20:13, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 17:29, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. Giant Snowman 17:33, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, he fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:GNG. --Carioca (talk) 21:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~. Comment. If the article is to be saved then a reliable source stating the Albanian Superliga is fully professional should be found and added to the list. Argyle 4 Life^talk 17:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep'... The Albanian team he played for seems very notable as they've won the Albanian league 9 times. 108.125.251.218 (talk) 10:44, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Notable player - playing at top Albanian club, regularly involved in European Competition. DavidDublin (talk) 13:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as has never played in a fully-professional league, thus failing WP:ATHLETE. пﮟოьεԻ 5 7 17:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:N. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:04, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.