Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bill Owen (footballer)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Closing early per WP:SNOW. The subject meets WP:NSPORT and this article is about him. Any ambiguity can be dealt with through the normal editing process. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Owen (footballer)

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I nominate this article for deletion bcuz there were 2 players with that name (William "Bill" Owen) in Manchester United, and this article does not stat which one its referred to, as both players could have been FW and the link on that article does not work. – HonorTheKing (talk) 22:54, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - There is only one Bill Owen who played for Manchester United with an article on Wikipedia: this one. The other Owen with the first initial "W" does not have a known first name. I can add sources to the article if you wish. – PeeJay 23:13, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- It would be better finding and adding more info on the article, cuz exept of the player name and the 2 teams he played for there is nothing useful which could really tell you about the person. – HonorTheKing (talk) 23:22, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Easily done, but you didn't need to start an AfD to get action taken. – PeeJay 23:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Unfortuantly since 20 December 2008 the article did not edited even once, so I felt after almost 2 years untouched it should be deleted and when the time will come someone will create it again but this time with real info, but until it get edited I still feel its a useless article to have. – HonorTheKing (talk) 00:49, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment There did seem to be some confusion in the article as the Holywell and Newton Heath player originally mentioned was actually the W. Owen whose name is unknown. I have now changed the article to be about the later Manchester United player who also appeared for a number of other Football League clubs and about whom information is available. I would suggest keeping the article in that form as there is too little known about W. Owen to make an article. Keresaspa (talk) 03:04, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, the person you actually added is not the "Bill Owen" mentioned but its actually W. Owen, Some sources says that W. name was William while others claim he is first name is unknown, I think we should add more refs and info about the players cuz right now, it still confusing on who we are talking about in the article.

Here 3 links, first one to StretfordEnd which claim his name is unknown, while mufcinfo claims both were William, [1] [2] [3] So now, after writing this, I am my self not sure who is the right Bill or who is unknown. -- HonorTheKing (talk) 03:29, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Definite Keep in its present form. Even in its original form, this should never have come to AfD. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 04:46, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have now added an infobox to the article. As Joyce lists two other players known as Bill or Billy Owen, as well as William Owen (footballer born 1906), this article should probably be moved to Bill Owen (footballer born 1906). Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 05:10, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I don't understand what the issue is above regarding two players called Owen, but this article should definitely be kept as it is about a player who played over 100 times at professional level -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:45, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I don't see an issue here. Argyle 4 Life^talk 09:24, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 12:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - clearly notable, shocking nomination. Giant Snowman 12:35, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, certainly now someone's decided to make the article about the one with 100+ appearances... Does seem odd that StretfordEnd has a name for the one with 1 solitary game for Newton Heath in 1898 but just an initial for the one with 17 apps in the 1930s who went on to 80-odd apps for other teams. Makes you think they've got them the wrong way round. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:22, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Clearly notable and I do not even see an issue here. Nomination should not nave been! - Ret.Prof (talk) 13:55, 15 September 2010 (UTC) made[reply]
Strong keep – Subject is definitely notable. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 00:15, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.