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There's a related discussion here: Talk:Arianne Zucker#Trump controversy. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:24, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Fahrenthold, David A. "Trump recorded having extremely lewd conversation about women in 2005". Washington Post. Retrieved 2016-10-08.

• Arianne Zuker: 2005 "SoapTalk" Part 1 - Laurencia7 (YouTube)
• Access Classic: Donald Trump's Election Day Disaster – A Look Back (2004) - Access Hollywood (YouTube)

Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 03:27, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly object to naming Nancy O'Dell in the article. I removed her name once, replacing it with "a married woman," but someone restored it. But she is not identified in the tape except as "Nancy", and in effect she is a victim, the target of Trump's lewd comments about a situation in which she was entirely innocent. Per BLP she should not be dragged into this, at least not by Wikipedia.

I had also removed Zucker's name from the lewd comments about her, replacing Zucker's name with "the woman who was meeting the bus". I feel less strongly about this, because Trump's and Bush's comments about her were less dramatic, and it is obvious from context who they were talking about.

But I would like to see consensus that O'Dell's name should be removed from the article, with an invisible comment not to re-add it. What do others think? --MelanieN (talk) 14:17, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nancy O'Dell is a notable person, and her name has been openly associated with the scandal, although I do agree that she is a victim. She has also issued a statement. Although I'm in favor of protecting victims, I actually think including her name in the article is informative. On a more visceral level, I think including her name is actually empowering to her, and the other victims of such atrociousness.- MrX 14:51, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

He reportedly fired women who refused [1]... This should be noted. My very best wishes (talk) 15:21, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]