User talk:Radiant!/Goodbye: Difference between revisions

Some Wikipedians have a tendency to 'brand' other people as 'inclusionist' or 'deletionist', usually for the simple reason that they disagreeing with that person. The connotation of both words is that of a derogative for someone who doesn't think before voting - and the implication of that is that the accusing party can't think of a logically sound reason for disagreeing.

I strongly object to this kind of factionalism. People should discuss, not polarize. I am occasionally branded as a 'deletionist' because of my opinions on VfD, but this is not grounded on reality. People who think otherwise are encouraged to look at my user page, and my role in establishing the semi-policy WP:FICT, which basically calls for keeping or merging of all fancr?ft.

--Radiant

This is Radiant's answering machine. Please leave a message after the beep.

Note that I do not keep archives of my talk page, as the history option suffices for that. I occasionally remove threads from there when they're no longer pertinent.

• archiving RFC
• sorting Category:To Do into Category:To do, by priority
• removing all old deletion templates (Template:VfD-1 E16 km2 through Template:VfD-Über)

Greetings radiant

Just online doing some work and thought i say hi to you and hope you have a blessed weekend, keep up the great work you are doing here

love and light --Sparklelight1 01:03, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Radiant! I saw that your signature links to the meta:mergism page. Have you noticed that the organizer of the AMW, Reene, has apparently left the building? She hasn't contributed since mid-January, and an entry in her LiveJournal states that she's pretty much done with Wikipedia. Joyous 22:51, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)

Information does not want to be alone I love that phrase; it should be the AMW's official slogan. I don't understand why more people don't seem inclined toward mergism (whether they officially join an "organization" or not). There seems to be some sort of status attached to having created a separate article, rather than expanding an already-existing one. Bad bad bad. Joyous 23:12, Mar 26, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for dropping me a note! The minor character proposal looks great, it's exactly what I was hoping for. Joyous 12:12, Mar 29, 2005 (UTC)

"... it is generally assumed that if you (or your company) are famous, someone else will write an article about you." Nicely put! FreplySpang (talk) 17:46, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your input at Wikipedia:Countdown deletion. Since there have been few enough people, I can afford to thank them individually, and who knows, maybe it will get picked up by others eventually... wait a minute, am I spamming talk pages? How the mighty have fallen... except that I was never very mighty... Anyway, JRM 10:52, 2005 Apr 6 (UTC)

Thanks. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said "factionalize". Consensus is impossible when we have these two factions feeling free to "get out the vote". --Tony Sidaway|Talk 20:53, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your addition looks great. Thanks for that – I had always assumed there was something on that page regarding VfD specifically; now there is. android↔talk 21:41, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

You're totally right, and actually I had had that thought, but I wasn't entirely sure, as a matter of logistics, how that would be achieved. Thanks for fixing! · Katefan0^(scribble) 19:58, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

Hey Radiant,

I actually think it's a good idea to merge Bullshido into McDojo. I already merged Belt Factory into McDojo, and was strongly considering doing the same with Bullshido until I saw the previous VfD. Yes, the argument could be made that because the content is completely different, a merge would be in good faith, but that's not my personal view. Just thought I'd explain my reasoning. --MikeJ9919 19:36, 13 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

FYI - I updated a message on the Introduction templates talk page - let me know if you think that sufficiently describes their purpose - I also added the sub (or inserted) templates that are used Template:Intro, Template:Intro/selected, Template:Intro/unselected, Template:Intro/1, Template:Intro/2, Template:Intro/3 and put a message on them as well. Have a good day Trödel|talk 20:50, 14 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

... at first I thought, "Oh no!", but then I realised categorising substubs as specific stubs. Keep up the good work! - Ta bu shi da yu 07:45, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for advising me of the state of Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Policy consensus. I could not tell from the internal evidence. Good job on maintaining the policies. --Theo (Talk) 08:13, 23 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

(I just made up that word: impressed?) I think that trying to make people more aware of the mechanics/benefits of merging is a fantastic idea. I'm constantly amazed at how many editors nominate something on VfD, saying "I think this should be merged with that." How much of that, I wonder, is caused by those who don't realize that one of the steps of a good merge is to create a redirect on the now empty page? Joyous 22:04, May 23, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. Good start on the article; I'll try to give it a once-over, but Michael will as well. I love the notion mergism; that gets it exactly right.  :-)

+sj + 20:19, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help on my talk template! Warmest regards --Neutrality^talk 04:18, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)

I tried to e-mail you so I wouldn't have to ask this in an open forum, in case you had reason not to advertise your subpages, but you haven't chosen to enable the e-mail option. So... You have some interesting pages in your userspace, but no pages link to them. Would you mind if I made a (tiny, not-so-obvious) link from my user page to your subpage about VfD? That page is one of the most concise, yet complete, guidelines for VfD that I've seen. Would you mind if I also directed new users to that page? Thank you. SWAdair | Talk 06:20, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 06:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Congratulations Radiant! A downtime is coming up in two minutes however, so you'll need to wait a few hours before using the block buttons ;-) Sjakkalle (Check!) 06:59, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Congrats as well! --Kbdank71 19:06, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Radiant!, I was astonished to find out that you were not already an admin, its long overdue. Thanks also for your vote of confidence on my RFA, it was much appreciated. I will work to demonstrate that your trust was well-placed. Fawcett5 19:32, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Congratulations as well. Looks like I have to include you on this subpage of mine. Good luck with the admin tools. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 20:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• I'd like to add my congratulations as well. P.S. Thanks for your support on my RfA, much appreciated. JYolkowski // talk 23:20, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Radiant!, I would like to add my congratulations. As Cecropia said, just about anything can be undone, so don't worry too much about making mistakes. Be bold. Oh, umm... yeah, right.  ;-) SWAdair | Talk 02:48, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Well deserved. Actually, it's really good when people recognise the merits of those whose views they do not share. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:01, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
• Congrats! --BaronLarf 12:17, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
• Congratulations! And no probleems with the support (of course, it means you have to agree with me on everything for the next few weeks... ;) Grutness...wha? 08:01, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! Wear it wisely. RickK 08:03, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Well done, and good luck! --Silversmith Hewwo 09:54, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

And my congratulations, too. James F. (talk) 10:24, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Grats from me too. I'm sure you'll do it great. Sarg 12:01, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Great to see that you made it! Be wise with the new capabilities, but don't stop being bold. We need more go get 'em editors like you! --Spangineer (háblame) 12:21, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! --Scimitar 13:01, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations - well earned. -- BDAbramson ^talk 15:50, 2005 Jun 8 (UTC)

I remember a while ago asking that you help to deal with the categories you marked for transwiki. I believe you did this for "English words", but four remain. What you need to do is go through them and mark the appropriate dicdefs for transwiki. I'll have any number you mark done tomorrow. Then, presumably, you can list the categories for deletion, of it's proper. The categories I'm talking about are Category:Given names, Category:Lists of words, Category:Names, Category:Vocabulary and usage stubs. Thanks. --Dmcdevit 07:57, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Now that I reread your response, I thought I'd let you know there isn't really a "transwiki team." There's just me (and a little bit of Uncle G). Would you like to form the team with me? :) --Dmcdevit 05:39, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your nice message. Just wanted to make sure you saw my reply.
BTW, I just went through m:Category math, and I now remember that I liked your contributions on Wikipedia_talk:Categorization_policy and I feel much better about your RfA now. — Sebastian (talk) 17:09, 2005 Jun 15 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for your speedy reactions with blocking the VfD sockpuppets. I found it difficult to keep up there in the end and my alert at WP:AN/I was the call for help I needed. Thanks for being so prompt and efficent in dealing with the vandalism. It seems to have settled now. Thanks again. -- Longhair | Talk 14:40, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'd always wondered if there was a better way to preserve the history after a merge than cut-and-paste to the Talk page. Thank you for posting the process. Rossami (talk) 16:19, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You seem to have put up some navigational boxes for deletion in favor of categories. I don't agree with you on several of them (most notably Slashdot), mainly because they order things in a different way and allow for higher visibility and quicker navigation. Could you please leave a note on the relevant article and template talk pages and discuss it, before nominating any others? - Mgm|^(talk) 09:52, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

• Okay, so maybe discussion should be at TFD, but it's unfair to not make people aware it's at risk of deletion. A polite note in addition to the TFD template should at least avoid people saying you're trying to get it deleted without them knowing. Thanks for the quick response. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:18, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

they were, but there are a lot of really intelligent comments on what we should do, scattered all over WP. I figured, these issues need to be addressed somewhere central, like WP:RFAr/RFC (where, of course, the discussion immediately becomes unmanageable). Finally, remembering just how much campaigning I had to do just to get rid of one of several Autofellatio images, I decided my energy is better spent editing articles and doing small random acts of constructiveness, as I don't have the stamina needed to push policy changes. regards, dab (ᛏ) 10:10, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I basically agree with you that the user does an excessive promotion of his (friends) work. FYI: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(assistance)#Image.2Feditor_dispute_related_problem -- Chris 73 Talk 12:05, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

On 3RR: i informed him of the 3RR rule. Since it is a new user, I am not sure if he knows the rule. if he makes another revert against the 3RR, I'd support blocking him. -- Chris 73 Talk 12:11, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Ditto. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 12:18, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

goed idee, als je mensen in die categorie zou willen uitnodigen, graag :-) groetjes, oscar 14:41, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. To be honest, I don't see what good mediation would do; Grace Note (talk · contribs) bears a grudge for something or other (I'm not sure what), and his attitude to me is rarely short of outright offensive. My intention is to ignore him where feasible, and as he doesn't seem to do much editing of articles (at least, not compared to his Talk-page edits), I should be able to do that. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 15:14, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Would a list of new categories from between 2005-04-21 and 2005-05-06 be useful, or should I wait until the next dump? By the way, I'm curious what you're going to use the list for. Anything new and exciting? -- Beland 10:25, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for putting together the list of proposed new criteria. Overall it looks well thought out, and it's presented in a way that's about as neutral and uncontroversial as these things can get. Well done!

As an aside, thanks for the vote of confidence on my RFA. I'll do my best not to disappoint. Cheers, --TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:59, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Can you explain why you keep removing the sole image from this article? Tom Haws 22:48, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

• The notice at Image:Lagonda little1.jpg and the discussion that it links to will tell you, without Radiant! (and others) having to explain a second time. Uncle G 23:59, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)

I've probably just been lazy and missed it, but I can't find where the guideline is that says that categories of people should be organized by surname and not by first name. I looked on the how-to for categories for people. Can you point me to the rule, if there is one, please? I was trying to tidy up the Category:Musicians page. Brequinda 08:18, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I wasn't sure when I rolled back the edits and deleted another page until I saw your note of thanks. I appreciate it. :-) -- Sundar (talk · contribs) 09:50, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Bedankt voor de uitnodiging, maar ik denk dat het net iets te officieel is voor mijn smaak. Bovendien, ziet het ernaar uit, dat ik het zowiezo the druk heb om te komen. Sorry. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:55, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

Hoi Radiant, bedankt voor je oproep, maar ik ben nou niet echt juridisch onderlegd, iets dat me toch wel handig lijkt bij het oprichten van een vereniging/stichting. Koos Discussion 11:33, 2005 Jun 24 (UTC)

Replied on my own talkpage. Tupsharru 11:04, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I've already left a message on - argh - I can't remember the spelling - User Sj... ä ? (I give up for now) - that user's talk page about this, but you seem to be involved in this, too. I know Boothy 443 goes over the top frequently, but the gang of sock puppets he's been reverting are even more out of control. I haven't updated my observations in a week, but I know they've started up again. You might take a look at my litterbox. I don't know what to do, as the head sockcase/sock headcase has already shown he's got an awful lot of axes to grind (mixed metaphor - can socks grind axes?). I can deal with the Roger Moss business, but all the t.v. stuff, et al. - don't want to go there. Well, except maybe for the hilarious Frank Field (meteorologist). --Mothperson 12:41, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)