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== AN3 decision == |
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I've had a handful of thanks since posting [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27_noticeboard%2FEdit_warring&diff=1241542074&oldid=1241541176 this]. I'm thinking of asking at AN if what you said has consensus support amongst admins. Not to seek any sort of sanction against you or DrKay (I've never had any reason to think you're not a good/effective admin) but just to clarify if what you said is indeed an unwritten rule applied by the admin corps - if it is I'm surprised but I'd like to know. So before I do that I just want to check if you're absolutely sure of your position on that. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 20:33, 21 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:Btw, what I said at AN3 was more combative than i should have been. Sorry about that. I was just a little shocked at the time to be honest. [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 20:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:: No problem! I think it's just common sense more than anything else - you've got a drive-by editor inserting unsourced OR into an FA, and someone trying to keep it out. I can't ever see a situation in which they should be sanctioned for that. [[User_talk:Black Kite|Black Kite (talk)]] 20:37, 21 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Thank you again for taking the time to look. A couple of things we might want to take forward to any AN discussion; is a "drive-by" editor an official thing here, and if so, what is the opposite of a drive-by editor? I've probably been one for the majority of my 200,000 edits. I had no idea it gave you fewer rights to expect others to treat you fairly and abide by policy. [[Common sense]] is a very dangerous rationale to use for administrative decisions in my opinion. It was common sense among white people for a very long time that black people could be bought and sold as slaves, for example. I definitely prefer a rationale based on policy and community consensus. I don't think that an FA should be exempt from normal editing practices, in the absence of a community consensus to that effect. <small>(I know there's a procedure for leniency for TFA, but this is not relevant here.)</small> The FAC process isn't perfect and we do get some clunkers promoted sometimes. The principle that (generally speaking) "anyone can edit" and the prohibition on edit-warring are the most important things in a wiki. The behaviour of edit-warring, being an admin, and issuing a templated warning, is in my opinion a highly worrying intersection behaviorally, and I was surprised you didn't pick up on that. I don't therefore think that you made the right decision there, but so it goes. See you at AN, maybe. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 12:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC) |
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==Notice of noticeboard discussion== |
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[[File:Information icon4.svg|link=|25px|alt=Information icon]] There is currently a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard]] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.<!--Template:Discussion notice--><!--Template:AN-notice--> The thread is [[WP:AN#Is reverting alleged OR from an FA exempt from the 3RR brightline?]] [[User:DeCausa|DeCausa]] ([[User talk:DeCausa|talk]]) 17:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC) |
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== Same user, again? == |
== Same user, again? == |
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Revision as of 13:55, 15 September 2024
 | "And while I'm alive, I'll make tiny changes to earth." Frightened Rabbit |
| Black Kite Hi, I'm an administrator here, and have been since 2007. I'll try to answer any questions here as soon as I can, though I do have periods where I'm not available. For admins: if you think I've done something really f***ing stupid and I don't respond to a question about it, please feel free to reverse it ... we can work it out later on. |
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Same user, again?
User SinisterUnion and user Fa30sp can be the same person, regarding the discussion about the first edition or not of the 2025 FIFA Club World Cup. Obviously there a slight possibility or potential for it. I am not entirely conviced anyway. Do you remember blocking Fa30sp as I had noted to you it? Leaving a message on SinisterUnion talk page and getting no response lets my reflect, I little bit. More users (very likely by the info they post) can bring it to be the same person. Regards. Island92 (talk) 22:46, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- There is a distinct possibility that is the case, you would have to open a WP:SPI though. Black Kite (talk) 22:47, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- That said, the discussion now you closed on the Project Wiki Football has gone on for weeks and weeks. Thank you for having closed it, I had had enough of it, honestly. Moreover, some same information are given in the respective talk page of the article where you can read previous Fa30sp comments and more recently SinisterUnion comments. For the time being I just want to wait. Let's see how it pans out with SinisterUnion. Island92 (talk) 22:53, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- SinisterUnion has already started posting the same things on the respective talk page of the tournament just because the other discussion was closed. Island92 (talk) 09:12, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've closed that as well. If SU keeps this up they may, unfortunately, end up in the same place as Fa30sp. Black Kite (talk) 13:54, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- SinisterUnion has already started posting the same things on the respective talk page of the tournament just because the other discussion was closed. Island92 (talk) 09:12, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- That said, the discussion now you closed on the Project Wiki Football has gone on for weeks and weeks. Thank you for having closed it, I had had enough of it, honestly. Moreover, some same information are given in the respective talk page of the article where you can read previous Fa30sp comments and more recently SinisterUnion comments. For the time being I just want to wait. Let's see how it pans out with SinisterUnion. Island92 (talk) 22:53, 14 September 2024 (UTC)