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:::::I would encourage you to remember to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]] when dealing with other editors. Accusing other editors of having an "agenda" (or in my case, of vandalism) is not generally conducive to a friendly and mutually respectful discussion.
:::::@[[User:Panenkazo|Panenkazo]] If you disagree with BRDude's interpretation of guidelines you basically have three choices. You can discuss it here, open a formal discussion and request clarification or propose that community consensus has changed, or you can drop the matter. However this is handled, there has been a lot of back and forth editing on this, and that needs to stop. It's getting late here. But I will check back to see where we are tomorrow (err later today). -[[User:Ad Orientem|Ad Orientem]] ([[User talk:Ad Orientem|talk]]) 04:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)