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  Proposal 1
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  Proposal 2
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  Proposal 6
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  Proposal 7
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  Proposal 8
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  Proposal 10
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  Proposal 11 (version 1)
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  Proposal 11 (version 2)
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  Proposal 11 (version 3)
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  Proposal 13
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  Proposal 14
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  Proposal 15
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  Proposal 16

Article(s)

Flag of Norway

Request

Could someone please create SVG files of the above proposals for the flag of Norway from 1821. More information on them can be seen on this page here. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 17:57, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinions

@Snow Lion Fenian:

Other source images can be found at Forslag til flagg, for year 1821. Those are same images, but with layout paper for color expectation. En rouge (talk) 19:33, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the second (2nd) proposal can simply be made by taking the flag of the Dominican Republic (or "Santo Domingo") and removing the coat of arms. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 06:39, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Request taken by En rouge (talk) 22:17, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

to be progressively completed...

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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 1.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 2.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 6.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 7.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 8.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 10.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 11-A.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 11-B.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 11-C.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 13.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 14.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 15.svg
  to be completed
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  Norway flag 1821 proposal 16.svg
  to be completed

@Snow Lion Fenian:

before completing ornaments on flags, please tell me if you have some comments/requirements, essentially about aspect ratio, line width, colors, or...

yours, En rouge (talk) 02:17, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@En rouge: Those all seem nicely in order, thank you for doing this. I'd say it's okay to go ahead and add the extra symbols on each one. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 15:43, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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two comments

- 10 doesn't use this strange color, but only yellowed material.

- 14 does not present Scandinavian cross, only a very thick Saint George's Cross

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@213.192.68.53: , please, can you give references for your arguments :

• for 10: yellow rather than olive (as seen in 04 & (ref.1)

but in (ref.1), we can see differences between mast color (yellow-ish) and flag color (olive-ish)... what are your sources?

but I can agree with you, as for #10, I think viewed-black is blue instead, but I have no source...

I think it's the same (blue instead of black) for 6 & 7 (painted source images give me this feeling), as well as 10 perhaps ;

14 seems really be black (but I've got no other source than the given paper painted flags copy)

• for 14: do you mean the cross is centered ? do you have a source ?
• and/or other sources ?

• for lion's tail, what's the problem ?

the main issue can be inward or outward... whatever the painting/display/rendering...

no?

all pictures are lion-ward (i.e. outward), rather than leopard-ward (inward)

so, what do you mean ?

thanks En rouge (talk) 00:17, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  The flag
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  Another flags, fig. 212 and fig. 213
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  Details of fig. 212 and fig. 213 (in French)
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  Other references too
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  CoA of Batavia, could be used as reference
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  Concept image by Donald Trung Quoc Don (徵國單).
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  Final

Article(s): Batavia (Indonesian, but it can be used in English version too)

Request

Could someone recreated two Batavia's flag (image 1 and image 2, fig. 212) in vectorized version? Thanks. AnsyahF (talk) 01:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

@AnsyahF: Hi!

1. FYI, I've found this picture of the first flag. It corresponds to the french text description #212. But it doesn't seems in accordance with the drawing fig. 212. What is your opinion? Thanks En rouge (talk) 00:14, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
2. And, what about the svg version of the escutcheon?

1. @En rouge: At first I didn't believe about that, but I found the colored one and it confirmed your findings. Seems the author don't have the image colored.
   (By the way, your "first" flag is likely originated from Nieuwe Tafel van Alle de Zeevarende Vlagge des Werelts. See the bottom part, third from left)
2. The escutcheon is taken from File:Coat of Arms of Batavia (1930).svg. Both of these SVG are created by same author. The author said that he took some freedom to draw these coat of arms as long as it fits the blazon (verbal description). So, I think it's OK. AnsyahF (talk) 05:34, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@AnsyahF and En rouge: , I found a different "Flag of Batavia" in this flag chart from 1864. It looks similar to the first image, but the field within the coat of arms of Batavia is blank. But note that a lot of the flags in this chart are inaccurate, for example the Kingdoms of "Holland" and Belgium don't typically have their coats of arms, furthermore, I have noticed a lot more errors in the flag chart, but it does show an alternative flag of Batavia. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 21:00, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• @AnsyahF: , I created this concept image above, do you like it? I couldn't really find any other sword to use. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 12:05, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Donald Trung: I like it, but it would be nice if you standardize the "escutcheon" theme to paper-style (for example). AnsyahF (talk) 01:44, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And what about the ratio of the flags to be changed to be like this flag? Do you mind? AnsyahF (talk) 02:12, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@AnsyahF: , my bad, I forgot to add my standard disclaimer that I am not a WikiGraphist, well, not a very skilled one. 😅 I created the concept image as a reference for WikiGraphists to work with. Ever since discovering this page I just wanted to help out in whatever small way I could as I asked quite a lot of requests when I "got started" here and I am trying to expand my Inkscape skills. But for whatever reason I cannot change the proportions of images in Inkscape (which is why I rarely take on flag requests) and I tried to create "as close an approximation" as I could with how I know Inkscape works. Also I hated how this request got ignored for so long, but unfortunately I can't help beyond what I did above. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 06:47, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Donald Trung: I'm sorry for pushing you a bit hard, I understand it. And I want to say thank you for making the concept. I used your concept as reference to new flag that I just created. I managed to standardize the element theme though it needs more file from the others. Moreover, this flag is documented on several flag charts and it was described as naval flag, and it shows transparent background of the herald (look at the gallery to find out more). AnsyahF (talk) 09:40, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  The achievement as it appears on an official document.
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  The most complicated part has already been made by someone else as an SVG.
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  The flags that appear on it.

Article(s): en:Emblem of Vietnam#List

Request

Hello fellow people online… I would like to create the creation of an SVG version of the above achievement (coat of arms), the preferred file name would be "File:Coat of arms of the Việt Cộng.svg". --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 07:21, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

Not a graphist: @Donald Trung: are you sure the word "Achievement" is the word you want? Do you know the French word of what you are trying to say for "Achievement"? Veverve (talk) 12:51, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Veverve: , I'm simply using the word Hubert de Vries uses. He's an expert in heraldry, vexillology, and general iconography and he used the term for this type of coat of arms. If you know a better word then please change it. Also, I'm not familiar with the French word for "Achievement". --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 13:30, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dictionary.com defines achievement: Heraldry. the full display of the armorial bearings of an individual or corporation. I'm not sure it's what is intended here. RCraig09 (talk) 19:04, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the term "Coat of arms" is better in this context then. In Vietnamese we just use the general terms "Quốc huy" and "Huy hiệu" which can be used to translate "Achievement", "Emblem", "Coat of arms", Etc. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 06:04, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I’d stick to “full emblem”, “elaborated state symbol”, or something like that; while I get what you mean by calling it an “achievement”, this is a rather technical term in European (esp. British) heraldry, usually implying the presence of such specific elements as a compartment, motto, shield, helm, crest, and supporters. Few of these have direct parallels in most post-colonial republican or socialist emblems.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 01:12, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  correct flag
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  correct coat of arms

Article(s): en:Hunza (princely state)

request(s)

1 request is a restore of the old version of incorrect flag [1] sources:[2] [3] [4]  Done

2 request is the addition of the Mir standard [5], which also requires an emblem.

I have not found a reliable source with the correct image of the coat of arms, but it was certainly a lion holding flag, with a ribbon on the mast with the word Hunza state and inscription above the flag [6] [7], most likely no formal draft exists.

standard name ,,Flag of Mir of Hunza`` coat of arms name ,,Emblem of Hunza (Kanjut)``

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Graphist opinion(s)

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  Olympic medals 2000 - 2016
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  Olympic gold medals 2000 - 2016

Article(s): 2020 Summer Olympics medal table

Request

Would you please update this to 2020? Tokyo 2020 Summer Olympics is starting --SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 02:03, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

@SpinnerLaserzthe2nd: caution : the two files are only used in 2016 Olympics pages, and don't need to be modified ;

I think that :

• 2020 - 2016 files shall remain as is :

• please remove your renaming request, still being 2000 - 2016
• (except, eventually, having Summer in the file name)

• for the 2020 Olympics :

• required 2020 files should be new files
• Tokyo 2020 Olympics have just started, these diagrams only need to be done after the event, as all data are compiled.

yours, En rouge (talk) 19:26, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  Current English Wiktionary Logo
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  Alternative form of logo with background

Article(s): English Wiktionary Logo, potentially other Wiktionary projects

Request

I would like to propose a new Wiktionary logo that includes the character

維

instead of 维. See here for a discussion I started on this topic at English Wiktionary. One detail is that, as User:justin(r)leung suggested, it would be nice for the character to be set in the same style as it is on the en:Wikipedia logo (ie, to look like

維

rather than

維

. In text this can be done by tagging the character as Japanese rather than Chinese, and it might also depend on the font. I hope it is not terribly complicated to switch the character from 维 to

維

, and I think having such a version would make proposing the change much more fluid. Thanks, --ChromeGames923 (talk) 23:37, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

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  Emblem of Vindhya Pradesh
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  Emblem of Bombay State
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  Emblem of Goa, Daman and Diu
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  Emblem of India.svg

Article(s): w:Vindhya Pradesh w:Bombay State w:Goa, Daman and Diu

Request

please vectorize emblem of Bombay State, Vindhya Pradesh and Goa, Daman and Diu.

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Graphist opinion(s)

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  PEPSU
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  Emblem of India.svg
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  suggested style
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Article(s): w:Patiala and East Punjab States Union

Request

please vectorize stamp of Patiala and East Punjab States Union, behind the lions is Khanda.

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Graphist opinion(s)

• Kindly provide Texts written on coint. --Sushant savla (talk) 06:55, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  SVG to modify
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  The model
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  Another version available

Article(s): the articles which already use this image

Request

I ask someone to: 1) simplify the crown of the SVG by removing all fleurs de lys, the pearls on the arch, and the decorations on the band; 2) also for the crown, turn the cap in red and make it go higher; 3) the crown should be a bit higher above the coat of arms, which means the crown should not be moved and that CoA should be lowered. It is so that the SVG looks more like the model. --Veverve (talk) 06:45, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

This is another version of the same flag, just in case. Sodacan (talk) 09:24, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• The flag to fix.
  The flag to fix.

Article(s):

Request

The star (upper left corner) on the model (other angle) is filled with yellow, but the star in the SVG version is empty. The star in the SVG version should be filled with yellow. The star in the model is also smaller than in the SVG version, therefore the star in the SVG version should be reduced. --Veverve (talk) 07:05, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

This image was nominated for deletion on 8 August 2021; see Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Oren neu dag. —RCraig09 (talk) 14:22, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RCraig09: I know, but this image is likely to stay. Veverve (talk) 14:28, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  Logo of the Commonwealth Games
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  Logo of the Commonwealth Games (black and white version)

Article(s): Various

Request

Please can a all black svg version of this logo be created of this logo. (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 04:03, 19 August 2021 (UTC))[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

 Done - Nancystodd (talk) 17:11, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MOTORAL1987: Added the file.

What is the purpose and intended use of blackened symbols? Are they officially recognized by some official body? Can they be used in a Wikipedia article? RCraig09 (talk) 05:53, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the Paralympic version above on this page, it appears they’re being used alongside black-silhouette sport icons to mark non-athletic events (opening & closing ceremonies) in games-schedule tables or timelines.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 07:05, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that’s what it is all about (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 08:27, 19 August 2021 (UTC))[reply]

It's very simple. Use a text editor to remove lines 17, 18 and 19. ---Mike Rohsopht (talk) 04:19, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t know how to access the text editor from my iPad (MOTORAL1987 (talk) 08:14, 23 August 2021 (UTC))[reply]

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  Flag of Lesotho (1966)
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  Flag of Lesotho (1987)
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  Flag of Lesotho (2006)

Article(s): en:Flag of Lesotho

Request

Please create a flag hybrid of Lesotho in 1987 and 2006, like flag of Austria/Germany. ColorfulSmoke (talk) 16:45, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

Request

Azerbaijani version of this comic.

"Citation needed" would be "Mənbə?" --NMW03 (talk) 20:17, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

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  Replace the flag of the Faroe Islands in this image with the flag of Finland
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  The flag of Finland

Article(s): en:Template:User Nordic cinema task force and en:Template:WikiProject Film

Request

Make a new edited version of File:Nuvola Nordic flags.svg by replacing its flag of the Faroe Islands with the flag of Finland , so then it has all five flags of the five Nordic countries.
The new image would replace the Nordic cinema task force's image in the templates User Nordic cinema task force and WikiProject Film. --85.23.79.231 14:10, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

Not a graphist. Is this not done one purpose to exclude Finland which is culturally different from the other countries? I feel such a request should be to make a new image and not to overwrite the previous one. Veverve (talk) 01:24, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's what I meant with the "new edited version", sorry if the request wasn't clear enough. It can be named something like File:Nuvola Nordic flags v2.svg or File:Nuvola Nordic countries flags.svg. 85.23.79.231 11:13, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  Flag of Somaliland

Article(s): en:Flag of Somaliland

Request

Could someone please make construction sheet of this flag.

Like this … --Siirski (talk) 09:42, 26 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

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  Museu da Pessoa.jpg (original JPG)
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  Logo of Museu da Pessoa.svg — SVG as requested

Article(s): d:Q10333707 and files with {{Museu da Pessoa license}}

Request

Please create a SVG version of this logo. It would be better than a normal raster image. --Albertoleoncio (talk) 17:34, 27 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

 Request taken by DemonDays64 (talk) 22:24, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@DemonDays64: Are you working on this project? RCraig09 (talk) 22:27, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RCraig09: not actively, I was going to do it sometime but if you want to I've not actually started anything, kind of busy rn. DemonDays64 (talk) 01:14, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In the absence of claiming by @DemonDays64:  Request taken by —RCraig09 (talk) 21:50, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Albertoleoncio: Let me know if changes are needed.  Done —RCraig09 (talk) 05:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RCraig09: Thanks a lot! Is it possible to change the background to transparent? Albertoleoncio (talk) 14:32, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Albertoleoncio: I will experiment in Inkscape. There is the issue of what to do with the inner spaces in "e" and "a" and "P" and "o".—RCraig09 (talk) 15:42, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Background is now transparent. I used the "Path ... difference" function in Inkscape to make the inner spaces of letters transparent, also.RCraig09 (talk) 17:24, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  Historical source for the arms of the royal House of Estridsen, on the left. Blazon: Or semée of waterlily pads gules, three leopards passant azure crowned or langued gules.
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  Current SVG file for the arms of the royal House of Estridsen (to be modified)
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  SVG file for the national arms of Denmark, based on the arms of the royal House of Estridsen
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  SVG file for the arms of Tallinn, based on the arms of the royal House of Estridsen

Article(s): en:House of Estridsen, en:Ancient and modern arms, en:Battle of Lyndanisse, en:Obotrites, ETC.

Request

The current file for the arms of the royal House of Estridsen (SVG) looks like a cartoon; moreover it is historically inaccurate. According to the historical source, the waterlily pads should have an uniform size, just like in the deriving arms of Denmark (SVG). The beasts could instead be improved using the design from the deriving arms of Tallinn (SVG), that are identical to the original ones, but adjusting their size according to the different shape of the original shield. --Est. 2021 (talk) 10:16, 28 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

 Done - Nancystodd (talk) 16:53, 1 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Request

most of the white triangles are empty, and one is fading red. Can anyone fix it?

213.192.68.53 29.8.2021

Graphist opinion(s)

It took a bit of work to isolate where all the issues were but I finally tracked it down to an issue with cloning of the triangles. They should all be visible now.

 Done - Nancystodd (talk) 04:25, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nancystodd: Hi! Do you know you can test the rendering of your svg file in File:test.svg?

yours, En rouge (talk) 15:25, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@En rouge: . I did not know that but this will be very useful for me. Wikimedia's SVG renderer does not behave like any other viewers including the browsers themselves. It can look perfect but not quite render when uploaded to Commons. It is not often an issue, but in SVGs that show display problems, it is hard to trace the problems caused by their renderer. Many thanks, Nancystodd (talk) 20:07, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Request

these banners also have a problem with the triangles, also on the latter need to add new crowns

213.192.68.53 51.8.2021

Graphist opinion(s)

 Request taken by Nancystodd (talk) 21:01, 31 August 2021 (UTC)  Done[reply]

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• File could be named as this
  Standard of the Armed Forces of Malta.svg File could be named as this
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  Flag of Malta.svg The image could be derived from this image

Article(s): w:Armed Forces of Malta

Request

On this page I discovered an image for the standard of the Armed Forces of Malta. It's based on the national flag of Malta, but looks like a 4:3 flag, on the middle of flag there is a golden De Redin Tower, below the golden tower there is a golden ribbon with the motto FORZI ARMATI. It would be awesome if anyone can make it available in SVG format. --Great Brightstar (talk) 01:03, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've also seen the flag image from the following sources:

• AFM Colours
• Armed Force (Malta)

--Great Brightstar (talk)

Graphist opinion(s)

The community wishes for the logo to be changed. The current motto of the project, ‘d vrie waordsbook, is in 'High Limburgish', a deprecated standard form. Instead, we wish for the motto to run ‘t vrie waordebook. None of us are able to create such a file. Could someone please do this for us? Steinbach (talk) 20:41, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Two weeks and no reply. Come on people, we need this new logo. Is our request so unimportant? Steinbach (talk) 12:57, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Request taken by LX | Talk 15:19, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Steinbach: Hi, I changed the motto according to your request (see here). Pls let me know in case there is something that still needs to be improved. And last but not least, should I overwrite the existing file (File:Wiktionary-logo-li.svg) or upload it as a new separate file? LX | Talk 16:05, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Lệ Xuân: , thank you very much. Yes, it is fine now. You can overwrite the old file alright. Steinbach (talk) 16:08, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  png
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• 
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  Flag of Argentina (vertical with Sol de Mayo).svg — the requested SVG

Article: w:List of Argentine flags

Request

SVG version is needed of the first image. Adds the necessary components. -213.192.68.53 20:48, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

 Request taken by RCraig09 (talk) 13:32, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@213.192.68.53:

Unfortunately the name File:Flag of Argentina (vertical).svg was already occupied by a version without the Sol de Mayo.

I chose an 8:5 ratio to correspond to the widely used File:Flag of Argentina.svg.

If changes are needed, please let me know.  Done —RCraig09 (talk) 15:14, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  PNG
• 
  SVG

Article(s): en:Addison Airport Toll Tunnel

Request

Hi! Please convert this PNG file into an SVG one. Thanks! --TextClick (talk) 00:26, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

Article(s)

Template

Request

Could someone please create some heraldic SVG templates of an Irish Wolfhound, based on the images seen here. And, if it's not too much, I'd ask that a number of them be created, displaying the Wolfhound in various different positions (running, standing on all fours, rampant, lying down, and so on). Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 19:34, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

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  Main logo of BRIN
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  Alternate Logo of BRIN

Article(s): National Research and Innovation Agency (Indonesia)

Request

Could someone please make SVG version of this newly formed Indonesian government agency? Thanks! -Ibrahim Muizzuddin (talk) 15:51, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

I uploaded new, alt logo, from BRIN Website from here: https://www.brin.go.id/wp-content/themes/ristekdikti2018/assets/img/new_brinlogo.png -Mmnashrullah (talk) 05:13, 11 September 2021 (UTC)}}[reply]

Article(s): Any article this already appears on.

Request

Could someone please redraw the above PNG arms of the island of Hœdic as SVG. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 16:02, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

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  Coat of arms of Semarang (1827-1945)

Article(s): Semarang

Request

Could someone make vectorised version of the old coat of arms of Semarang? Yes, I know if there is already an SVG version of this coat of arms, but it seems quite inaccurate and incomplete compared to the small JPG version which I have uploaded here. Thanks. -Ibrahim Muizzuddin (talk) 16:19, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s)

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  Infographic with obscure archaic imperialist measures

Article(s): [[]]

Request

Change all measurements to international standard units and remove imperialist stuff, please - MPF (talk) 20:45, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Article(s): ru:Солнечное затмение 11 августа 1999 года

Request

The map has very old borders, i.e. with two Germanies. 217.117.125.83 11:31, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  Arms of Binic
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  Arms of Concarneau
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  Arms of Dinan
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  Arms of Fouesnant
   Done
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  Arms of Landerneau
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  Arms of Plancoët

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  Flag of Fouesnant, France.svg as requested

Article(s): Binic, Concarneau, Dinan, Fouesnant, Landerneau, Plancoët and List of Breton flags.

Request

Can someone please create an SVG files of the flags of the following Breton towns:

1. The flag of Binic, as seen here.
2. The flag of Concarneau, as seen here.
3. The flag of Dinan, as seen here.
4. The flag of Fouesnant, as seen here.
5. The flag of Landerneau, as seen here.
6. The flag of Plancoët, as seen here.

As you can see, each one is effectively a banner of the towns' respective coats of arms, provided above for anyone who wishes to try it. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 17:18, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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• I take Fouesnant only at this time. What aspect ratio is desired? The crwflags image is 3:2. —RCraig09 (talk) 15:20, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RCraig09: Thanks for taking on Fouesnant. Yes, I think the 3:2 aspect ratio would suffice, if it's okay. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 15:47, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of Fouesnant, France.svg is complete, je crois. Let me know if changes are needed. —RCraig09 (talk) 21:28, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RCraig09: That's perfect, and thanks for doing this. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 14:20, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RCraig09:

What is the copyright status of this image? The image is significantly different from the CoA already on Commons.

It appears you vectorized the image on

• https://web.archive.org/web/20210912173250/https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/fr-29-fo.html

If that is the case, then the vectorization may be a derivative work of that flag.

That page credits the image as "Flag of Fouesnant - Image by Arnaud Leroy, 20 March 2002".

That page describes the flag as

According to P. Rault (Les drapeaux bretons de 1188 à nos jours [rau98]), the flag of Fouesnant, as reported by Divy Kervella, is a banner of the traditional arms of the city. The arms are dated 1426 and can be blazoned as: Sable, a double-headed eagle argent, langued, beaked and clawed gules.

For meaning of terms, see A Glossary of Terms used in Heraldry.

As I understand it, there is no copyright on a blazon, but there can be copyrights on drawings made from the blazon. Consequently, the flag could use any artistic interpretation of the double-headed eagle.

We need to show that Leroy's 2002 flag has an acceptable license or we cannot use it.

Glrx (talk) 16:12, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Glrx: Indeed my SVG is a derivative work of the GIF that Arnaud Leroy uploaded. However, I question whether Leroy's image has the modicum of originality that warrants copyright protection in the first place, especially since his work itself must by definition be a copy or close derivative of a public domain work, and how "crowded" the field of eagle-heraldry already is. But I've already placed calls and emails through Flags of the World to try and contact Leroy for licensing or further info, so let's hold off on any action. —RCraig09 (talk) 18:15, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Glrx: Update: I've received word from Flags of the World that Arnaud Leroy has not communicated with them "for many, many years".

- Through further research I've discovered that the historical flag was apparently redrawn ("Redessiné") by Leroy (emblemes.free) as part of a larger project (cyber-flag.net). This history indicates that Leroy merely copied the historical design rather than create his own original design in the manner you seem to describe above. I am trying to contact Leroy through Pascal Vagnat at that project.

- More generally, the more I think about it, I think that choosing a particular feather configuration, beak, and claws is nearly devoid of the originality needed to warrant copyright protection in the first place. (See these Google search results for how crowded the two-headed eagle field is.) —RCraig09 (talk) 19:58, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Note also armorialdefrance.fr for the same town--showing both were a close copy of the historical original. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:55, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RCraig09:

If you trace an image for Commons, you need to show the original image has a free license. Maybe Leroy executed a CC-BY-SA license. If you can show Leroy faithfully copied a free image, then that should suffice. Without something more, the default assumption is that Leroy created the design in 2002.

"More generally, the more I think about it, I think that choosing a particular feather configuration, beak, and claws is nearly devoid of the originality needed to warrant copyright protection in the first place." That is not the way it works. A double-headed eagle is not a simple shape. If someone copies my design, then it violates my copyright. Someone else independently drawing a design that looks close to my double-headed eagle does not violate my copyright. Hundreds of photographers may take similar pictures of a movie star at a press conference; the similarity of the photographs and near lack of originality in taking photos at a press conference does not remove the images from copyright protection.

Moral rights are another issue.

I do not like bringing up these issues, but Commons and WMF want to respect copyrights.

Glrx (talk) 16:38, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- Thanks for your explanations, and I understand that the WMF goes above and beyond bare legal minimums. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but in this case it's the "redrawn" ("Redessiné") that's mentioned at the emblemes.free link (above) that makes me think Leroy's is the "faithful reproduction" that you describe.

- I'm continuing to pursue contact with Leroy (if he's still living) or the current copyright holder, but as an aside: is it acceptable for a Wikimedian like me to create my own design from scratch based on a general description, and upload it to Commons? It's a well-intended enterprise but intuitively it might come off as a bit spam-like in a way the Commons would reject. Is there a written governing policy or guideline? —RCraig09 (talk) 22:33, 15 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RCraig09:

I do not read "Redessine" as a copy; it may imply much more. Even the English transliteration to "redraw" does not imply a strict copy. If I google the Coat of Arms of Fouesnant, France, I only get a few designs, and Leroy's design is distinguishable from the others. I do not see a similar eagle at en:Double-headed eagle. Leroy may have copied his double-headed eagle, but we do not know that right now.

As I understand, anyone may create an image from the blazon. It is then her image, and if it is above TOO, then it has a copyright.

One could also use a free image to create the work. It would be a derivative work, and the additions or modifications to the composite would have to be above TOO for the derivative to have its own copyright.

Glrx (talk) 17:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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  Arms of Dol-de-Bretagne

Article(s): Dol-de-Bretagne, List of Breton flags and Nordic cross flag

Request

Will someone please create an SVG file of the flag of Dol-de-Bretagne, as seen here and here, using elements from the town's coat of arms provided above. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 12:58, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Article(s): Rostrenen and List of Breton flags

Request

Could someone please create an SVG file of the flag of Rostrenen, as seen here. Thanks. Snow Lion Fenian (talk) 13:17, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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